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A decade ago, Lucy Biggers and I were making videos in the same corner of the internet. She was at NowThis covering the climate movement, interviewing Greta Thunberg and filming one of the first videos of AOC’s run for Congress, while I was at Refinery29 trying five days of zero waste. Then she went quiet for years, and when she came back online she was calling herself a climate realist and posting about how much she loves fossil fuels.
A past version of me would never have touched this conversation. I invited Lucy on anyway because I wanted to understand what it’s like to change your identity that drastically and that publicly. She walks me through the moment her beliefs started to crack, which was wearing a plastic mask in 2020 after years of agonizing over straws. She tells me what it felt like to see carbon emissions fall only about 5% during lockdown, and what happened the day she came back to Instagram and lost somewhere between 10,000 and 15,000 followers.
We also get into a conversation I didn’t plan on having, about the 2020 Black Lives Matter movement and what each of us took away from that time. I push back on her, she pushes back on me, and we end up far apart on whether we can trust the scientists at the UN.
If you feel strongly about climate, I’d argue this is exactly the episode you should listen to, and I want to hear in the comments where you landed.
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Watch this episode in video form on Spotify or YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjmevEcbh5h5FEX0pazPEtN86t7eb2OgX
To apply to be a guest on the show, visit luciefink.com/apply and send us your story.
I also want to extend a special thank you to East Love for the show's theme song, Rolling Stone.
Follow the show on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealstuffpod
Find Lucie here:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/luciebfink/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@luciebfink
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/luciebfink
Website: https://luciefink.com/
Subscribe to my free newsletter "The Lucie List" here: https://thelucielist.beehiiv.com/subscribe
Executive Producer: Cloud10
Produced by Dear Media.
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A decade ago, Lucy Biggers and I were making videos in the same corner of the internet. She was at NowThis covering the climate movement, interviewing Greta Thunberg and filming one of the first videos of AOC’s run for Congress, while I was at Refinery29 trying five days of zero waste. Then she went quiet for years, and when she came back online she was calling herself a climate realist and posting about how much she loves fossil fuels.
A past version of me would never have touched this conversation. I invited Lucy on anyway because I wanted to understand what it’s like to change your identity that drastically and that publicly. She walks me through the moment her beliefs started to crack, which was wearing a plastic mask in 2020 after years of agonizing over straws. She tells me what it felt like to see carbon emissions fall only about 5% during lockdown, and what happened the day she came back to Instagram and lost somewhere between 10,000 and 15,000 followers.
We also get into a conversation I didn’t plan on having, about the 2020 Black Lives Matter movement and what each of us took away from that time. I push back on her, she pushes back on me, and we end up far apart on whether we can trust the scientists at the UN.
If you feel strongly about climate, I’d argue this is exactly the episode you should listen to, and I want to hear in the comments where you landed.
Sponsors:
Labcorp: Visit https://www.OnDemand.Labcorp.com/realstuff and use code "realstuff" to save up to 15% on select tests.
Target: All that’s new and uniquely you. It’s in the bag. https://www.target.com
Nutrafol: Visit https://www.nutrafol.com and enter promo code REALSTUFF for $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping.
ButcherBox: Go to https://www.ButcherBox.com/realstuff for $20 off your first box, plus your choice of free ground beef for life, or free chicken thighs or top sirloins in every box for a year – with free shipping always.
Watch this episode in video form on Spotify or YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjmevEcbh5h5FEX0pazPEtN86t7eb2OgX
To apply to be a guest on the show, visit luciefink.com/apply and send us your story.
I also want to extend a special thank you to East Love for the show's theme song, Rolling Stone.
Follow the show on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealstuffpod
Find Lucie here:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/luciebfink/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@luciebfink
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/luciebfink
Website: https://luciefink.com/
Subscribe to my free newsletter "The Lucie List" here: https://thelucielist.beehiiv.com/subscribe
Executive Producer: Cloud10
Produced by Dear Media.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices