Economist Saul Eslake joins Lex and Greg to examine the soaring cost of imprisonment in Australia, high rates of reoffending, and whether our tough-on-crime approach is delivering results or making the problem worse.

You can learn more about Saul's work at www.sauleslake.info

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Hosts: Lex Lasry AM and Greg Barns SC

Guest: Saul Eslake

Editor: Michael Tankard

Produced by: Bravecasting Media

Original music by Justin Humphries - Phoenix Sound Studios

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