Professor Abbe Smith joins us from Washington, D.C. to discuss the state of the American justice system under Donald Trump, the independence of the judiciary and what's at stake in the upcoming US midterm elections. We also explore her decades of work as a criminal defence lawyer and the case for prison reform.

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Hosts: Lex Lasry AM and Greg Barns SC

Guest: Professor Abbe Smith

Editor: Michael Tankard

Produced by: Bravecasting Media

Original music by Justin Humphries - Phoenix Sound Studios

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